Safety

Nikhil Kamath and Dario Amodei cover a wide sweep: scaling laws, why Anthropic exists, power concentration, trust, machine consciousness, what happens to jobs and skills, the open-source debate, data sovereignty, and the unsettling question of what happens when models seem to know you. The central image: a tsunami is visible on the horizon, and society is still explaining it away as a trick of the light. This post breaks down the conversation—from Dario's path from biology to AI, to his two convictions (scaling works, safety must be real), to the practical implications for engineers, entrepreneurs, and anyone trying to understand what is coming.